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Posted by Jbuch on January 9, 2007, 12:16 pm
This is a pretty long article about Dr. Mary Vernon in Kansas using low
carb diets to eliminate the symptoms of Type II Diabetes. It also
includes a lot of historical information.

Just snippets of the article are given here.

It says what many have said here and have long believed, that Diabetes
Type II is an "insulin" disorder, and the cure is to eliminate the need
for so much insulin function by elimination of carbohydrates and
replacement with protein and fats.

It includes comments by/about other researchers and the ADA.



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http://health.msn.com/centers/diabetes/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100150895&GT1=9029

The Cure for Diabetes



What if the American Heart Association endorsed the trans-fat diet?
Problem, right? Look at what the American Diabetes Association is
spoon-feeding people with diabetes: sugar. Not to worry: We've got the
solution right here.
By Adam Campbell, Men's Health

Walking Out Cured

It's a wonder no one has tried to have Mary Vernon's medical license
revoked.

Since 1999, the 52-year-old family doctor has been treating diabetic
patients in Lawrence, Kan., with an approach that was abandoned by most
physicians in the 1930s. Worse, this Depression-era remedy is the
opposite of the current guidelines established by the American Diabetes
Association, a nonprofit organization that spent nearly $51 million on
research in 2005, and so should know a thing or two about how to handle
diabetes.

There's no question that Dr. Vernon is trouble—but for whom? Not her
patients, that's for certain. They just won't stay sick. People walk
into her office afflicted with type-2 diabetes and, by every objective
medical measurement, walk out cured. There's $51 million that says that
isn't supposed to happen, not in a clinic in Kansas, and definitely not
as a result of cleaning out the refrigerator.

"My first line of treatment is to have patients remove carbohydrates
from their diets," explains Dr. Vernon, a petite, energetic mother of
two who also serves as the president of the American Society of
Bariatric Physicians. "This is often all it takes to reverse their
symptoms, so that they no longer require medication."

That's it?

---------------------- Click Link for Rest of Article -----------

<snip>

Unlike protein, fat and fiber—which have little if any impact on blood
sugar—carbohydrates such as starch and sugar are quickly broken down
into glucose during digestion, which is then absorbed into your
bloodstream. The more you eat, the higher and faster your blood sugar
rises. Therefore, if you have diabetes, it would make sense to control
your blood sugar by limiting your carbohydrate intake. Another benefit
of consuming fewer carbs is that you often end up consuming fewer
calories, and that can help lower weight, which, in turn, reduces
insulin resistance.

By contrast, the American Diabetes Association suggests that people with
diabetes build their diets around bread. OK, not just bread. In
explaining the foundation of its Diabetes Food Pyramid, the ADA Web
site—the public face of the organization—states, "This means you should
eat more servings of grains, beans and starchy vegetables than of any of
the other foods." And while high-fiber whole grains are emphasized, a
slice of whole-wheat bread is still more than 80 percent starch.

Granted, sweets are at the pinnacle of the pyramid, though so are "fats"
and "oils," which makes it appear that the ADA's main focus isn't on
high blood sugar at all but rather on a different affliction.

"Long-term, what you're really concerned about is heart disease," says
Marion Franz, R.D., a member of an 11-person team of experts who
coauthored the ADA's 2006 nutrition recommendations. "It's the major
cause of death for people with diabetes." In other words, they use food
as a weapon against a complication of diabetes, rather than diabetes itself.

When it comes to controlling blood sugar, the ADA seems to push drugs as
hard as diet. An ADA position statement published in August 2006 advises
that people newly diagnosed with type-2 diabetes immediately commence
taking metformin, an oral medication that slows the body's internal
production of glucose, helping to lower blood-sugar levels. With total
sales of metformin having neared $1.1 billion in 2005, according to IMS
Health, this recent recommendation must have brought a big smile to big
pharma—and a look of utter disbelief to the faces of the ADA's critics.

"They're contradicting themselves," says Richard Feinman, Ph.D.,
director of the Nutrition & Metabolism Society and a professor of
biochemistry at SUNY Downstate medical center, in New York City. "They
want diabetics to take medication to lower their blood sugar, but
recommend a diet that has the opposite effect."

End <snip>

Posted by Roger Zoul on January 9, 2007, 1:08 pm
Yep, that's pretty much it, along with some reasonable exercise. I don't
like the use of the word "cure", however.

Jbuch wrote:
:: This is a pretty long article about Dr. Mary Vernon in Kansas using
:: low carb diets to eliminate the symptoms of Type II Diabetes. It also
:: includes a lot of historical information.
::
:: Just snippets of the article are given here.
::
:: It says what many have said here and have long believed, that
:: Diabetes
:: Type II is an "insulin" disorder, and the cure is to eliminate the
:: need
:: for so much insulin function by elimination of carbohydrates and
:: replacement with protein and fats.
::
:: It includes comments by/about other researchers and the ADA.
::
::
::
::
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
::
http://health.msn.com/centers/diabetes/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100150895&GT1=9029
::
:: The Cure for Diabetes
::
::
::
:: What if the American Heart Association endorsed the trans-fat diet?
:: Problem, right? Look at what the American Diabetes Association is
:: spoon-feeding people with diabetes: sugar. Not to worry: We've got
:: the solution right here.
:: By Adam Campbell, Men's Health
::
:: Walking Out Cured
::
:: It's a wonder no one has tried to have Mary Vernon's medical license
:: revoked.
::
:: Since 1999, the 52-year-old family doctor has been treating diabetic
:: patients in Lawrence, Kan., with an approach that was abandoned by
:: most physicians in the 1930s. Worse, this Depression-era remedy is
:: the
:: opposite of the current guidelines established by the American
:: Diabetes Association, a nonprofit organization that spent nearly $51
:: million on research in 2005, and so should know a thing or two about
:: how to handle diabetes.
::
:: There's no question that Dr. Vernon is trouble—but for whom? Not her
:: patients, that's for certain. They just won't stay sick. People walk
:: into her office afflicted with type-2 diabetes and, by every
:: objective medical measurement, walk out cured. There's $51 million
:: that says that isn't supposed to happen, not in a clinic in Kansas,
:: and definitely not
:: as a result of cleaning out the refrigerator.
::
:: "My first line of treatment is to have patients remove carbohydrates
:: from their diets," explains Dr. Vernon, a petite, energetic mother of
:: two who also serves as the president of the American Society of
:: Bariatric Physicians. "This is often all it takes to reverse their
:: symptoms, so that they no longer require medication."
::
:: That's it?
::
:: ---------------------- Click Link for Rest of Article -----------
::
:: <snip>
::
:: Unlike protein, fat and fiber—which have little if any impact on
:: blood sugar—carbohydrates such as starch and sugar are quickly
:: broken down
:: into glucose during digestion, which is then absorbed into your
:: bloodstream. The more you eat, the higher and faster your blood sugar
:: rises. Therefore, if you have diabetes, it would make sense to
:: control
:: your blood sugar by limiting your carbohydrate intake. Another
:: benefit
:: of consuming fewer carbs is that you often end up consuming fewer
:: calories, and that can help lower weight, which, in turn, reduces
:: insulin resistance.
::
:: By contrast, the American Diabetes Association suggests that people
:: with diabetes build their diets around bread. OK, not just bread. In
:: explaining the foundation of its Diabetes Food Pyramid, the ADA Web
:: site—the public face of the organization—states, "This means you
:: should
:: eat more servings of grains, beans and starchy vegetables than of
:: any of the other foods." And while high-fiber whole grains are
:: emphasized, a
:: slice of whole-wheat bread is still more than 80 percent starch.
::
:: Granted, sweets are at the pinnacle of the pyramid, though so are
:: "fats" and "oils," which makes it appear that the ADA's main focus
:: isn't on
:: high blood sugar at all but rather on a different affliction.
::
:: "Long-term, what you're really concerned about is heart disease,"
:: says Marion Franz, R.D., a member of an 11-person team of experts who
:: coauthored the ADA's 2006 nutrition recommendations. "It's the major
:: cause of death for people with diabetes." In other words, they use
:: food
:: as a weapon against a complication of diabetes, rather than diabetes
:: itself.
::
:: When it comes to controlling blood sugar, the ADA seems to push
:: drugs as hard as diet. An ADA position statement published in August
:: 2006 advises that people newly diagnosed with type-2 diabetes
:: immediately commence taking metformin, an oral medication that slows
:: the body's internal production of glucose, helping to lower
:: blood-sugar levels. With total sales of metformin having neared $1.1
:: billion in 2005, according to IMS Health, this recent recommendation
:: must have brought a big smile to big pharma—and a look of utter
:: disbelief to the faces of the ADA's critics.
::
:: "They're contradicting themselves," says Richard Feinman, Ph.D.,
:: director of the Nutrition & Metabolism Society and a professor of
:: biochemistry at SUNY Downstate medical center, in New York City.
:: "They
:: want diabetics to take medication to lower their blood sugar, but
:: recommend a diet that has the opposite effect."
::
:: End <snip>



Posted by Jbuch on January 9, 2007, 1:17 pm
I had you in mind when I brought up the subject of "many have said here
and long believed....."

Pretty direct article saying that evidently, the first order of the ADA
marching band is a glucose reducing medication, Then this is followed
by a diet rich in carbs which riase the blood glucose as part of the
digestive process.

About a year ago, there was an article in the British Journal of
Medicine on obesity that stated that what is probably going to be
required to get to the bottom on the diet thing is an investigative
process similar to that which was employed against the tobbaco industry
and smoking.

There is just so much money involved in this diet/health/obesity/CHD thing.

It would be foolish to believe that all those who make or acquire
millions are truthful and acting in the best interests of the public

.

Roger Zoul wrote:
> Yep, that's pretty much it, along with some reasonable exercise. I don't
> like the use of the word "cure", however.
>
> Jbuch wrote:
> :: This is a pretty long article about Dr. Mary Vernon in Kansas using
> :: low carb diets to eliminate the symptoms of Type II Diabetes. It also
> :: includes a lot of historical information.
> ::
> :: Just snippets of the article are given here.
> ::
> :: It says what many have said here and have long believed, that
> :: Diabetes
> :: Type II is an "insulin" disorder, and the cure is to eliminate the
> :: need
> :: for so much insulin function by elimination of carbohydrates and
> :: replacement with protein and fats.
> ::
> :: It includes comments by/about other researchers and the ADA.
> ::
> ::
> ::
> ::
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ::
>
http://health.msn.com/centers/diabetes/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100150895&GT1=9029
> ::
> :: The Cure for Diabetes
> ::
> ::
> ::
> :: What if the American Heart Association endorsed the trans-fat diet?
> :: Problem, right? Look at what the American Diabetes Association is
> :: spoon-feeding people with diabetes: sugar. Not to worry: We've got
> :: the solution right here.
> :: By Adam Campbell, Men's Health
> ::
> :: Walking Out Cured
> ::
> :: It's a wonder no one has tried to have Mary Vernon's medical license
> :: revoked.
> ::
> :: Since 1999, the 52-year-old family doctor has been treating diabetic
> :: patients in Lawrence, Kan., with an approach that was abandoned by
> :: most physicians in the 1930s. Worse, this Depression-era remedy is
> :: the
> :: opposite of the current guidelines established by the American
> :: Diabetes Association, a nonprofit organization that spent nearly $51
> :: million on research in 2005, and so should know a thing or two about
> :: how to handle diabetes.
> ::
> :: There's no question that Dr. Vernon is trouble—but for whom? Not her
> :: patients, that's for certain. They just won't stay sick. People walk
> :: into her office afflicted with type-2 diabetes and, by every
> :: objective medical measurement, walk out cured. There's $51 million
> :: that says that isn't supposed to happen, not in a clinic in Kansas,
> :: and definitely not
> :: as a result of cleaning out the refrigerator.
> ::
> :: "My first line of treatment is to have patients remove carbohydrates
> :: from their diets," explains Dr. Vernon, a petite, energetic mother of
> :: two who also serves as the president of the American Society of
> :: Bariatric Physicians. "This is often all it takes to reverse their
> :: symptoms, so that they no longer require medication."
> ::
> :: That's it?
> ::
> :: ---------------------- Click Link for Rest of Article -----------
> ::
> :: <snip>
> ::
> :: Unlike protein, fat and fiber—which have little if any impact on
> :: blood sugar—carbohydrates such as starch and sugar are quickly
> :: broken down
> :: into glucose during digestion, which is then absorbed into your
> :: bloodstream. The more you eat, the higher and faster your blood sugar
> :: rises. Therefore, if you have diabetes, it would make sense to
> :: control
> :: your blood sugar by limiting your carbohydrate intake. Another
> :: benefit
> :: of consuming fewer carbs is that you often end up consuming fewer
> :: calories, and that can help lower weight, which, in turn, reduces
> :: insulin resistance.
> ::
> :: By contrast, the American Diabetes Association suggests that people
> :: with diabetes build their diets around bread. OK, not just bread. In
> :: explaining the foundation of its Diabetes Food Pyramid, the ADA Web
> :: site—the public face of the organization—states, "This means you
> :: should
> :: eat more servings of grains, beans and starchy vegetables than of
> :: any of the other foods." And while high-fiber whole grains are
> :: emphasized, a
> :: slice of whole-wheat bread is still more than 80 percent starch.
> ::
> :: Granted, sweets are at the pinnacle of the pyramid, though so are
> :: "fats" and "oils," which makes it appear that the ADA's main focus
> :: isn't on
> :: high blood sugar at all but rather on a different affliction.
> ::
> :: "Long-term, what you're really concerned about is heart disease,"
> :: says Marion Franz, R.D., a member of an 11-person team of experts who
> :: coauthored the ADA's 2006 nutrition recommendations. "It's the major
> :: cause of death for people with diabetes." In other words, they use
> :: food
> :: as a weapon against a complication of diabetes, rather than diabetes
> :: itself.
> ::
> :: When it comes to controlling blood sugar, the ADA seems to push
> :: drugs as hard as diet. An ADA position statement published in August
> :: 2006 advises that people newly diagnosed with type-2 diabetes
> :: immediately commence taking metformin, an oral medication that slows
> :: the body's internal production of glucose, helping to lower
> :: blood-sugar levels. With total sales of metformin having neared $1.1
> :: billion in 2005, according to IMS Health, this recent recommendation
> :: must have brought a big smile to big pharma—and a look of utter
> :: disbelief to the faces of the ADA's critics.
> ::
> :: "They're contradicting themselves," says Richard Feinman, Ph.D.,
> :: director of the Nutrition & Metabolism Society and a professor of
> :: biochemistry at SUNY Downstate medical center, in New York City.
> :: "They
> :: want diabetics to take medication to lower their blood sugar, but
> :: recommend a diet that has the opposite effect."
> ::
> :: End <snip>
>
>

Posted by Lorraine on January 9, 2007, 2:14 pm

>This is a pretty long article about Dr. Mary Vernon in Kansas using low
>carb diets to eliminate the symptoms of Type II Diabetes. It also
>includes a lot of historical information.

Thanks for the article! She's on my list of network doctors and her
office is five miles from mine. Plus she provides evening and weekend
hours office hours. I'd love to have a doctor who can think outside of
the box for a change.

L.

Posted by Bob in CT on January 9, 2007, 3:24 pm
On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:14:52 -0500, Lorraine <remtoxicvapor@remyahoo.com=
> =

wrote:

>
>> This is a pretty long article about Dr. Mary Vernon in Kansas using l=
ow
>> carb diets to eliminate the symptoms of Type II Diabetes. It also
>> includes a lot of historical information.
>
> Thanks for the article! She's on my list of network doctors and her
> office is five miles from mine. Plus she provides evening and weekend=

> hours office hours. I'd love to have a doctor who can think outside o=
f
> the box for a change.
>
> L.

If she doesn't believe in "high blood cholesterol =3D heart disease" ide=
a, =

too, then she's definitely my type of doctor.

-- =

Bob in CT

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